Playing the Villain in this You’re Story

No, I try not to. You know, great performances make a big impact on my psyche, so I have to try to not think about them. Otherwise I’ll just start imitating other actors that I love. And then I’ll be doing a John Malkovich impersonation in the middle of a movie, and that’s probably not a great idea. I was inspired by Vincent D’onofrio’s Fisk, because I know Vincent, and I studied his performance because it was so original, and so strange. Vincent is always so creative in how he creates characters, and it let me know that Marvel was game to try anything if I could come up with something smart and good enough for them. I enjoyed studying villains, but there wasn’t any one specifically. I like trying to copy real people.

Oscar’s character is a patient, so I imagined what would his doctor be like. And as you study Dissociative Identity Disorder, you see how much it speaks in dreams. And I start thinking about "Oh yeah, Carl Jung was always studying dreams, and what the power of symbols are inside of us." And I start think thinking, "Wow, what if I base this character on Carl Jung?" Or, if my character was a follower of this goddess Ammit, I needed to make him a genuine spiritualist, and I imagined him looking like a monk, and talking like Carl Jung. Well, I mentioned Logan and Doctor Strange because they were two of my favorites. You know? I worked with [Doctor Strange director] Scott Derrickson this year [on The Black Phone], and he was a good friend to me, and advised me on doing this. What was the question? If your thinking on the superhero genre—what’s become a genre—has evolved. It’s completely become its own genre, and Marvel has its own unique tone. There are things that are funny in a Marvel movie that wouldn’t be funny in another movie. They have their own math to them, and every now and then I see one where you can really see an actor really deliver. And Hugh Jackman and Benedict both did such great jobs, and I cited those ones because I was like, ‘Wow, you really can give a great performance.’

I mean, Downey had done it, and lots of people had done it. But I was always trying to figure out how. You know? And how I could contribute if they came to me with one. And this one spoke to me, just mostly because I got along so well with Oscar. It seems like you guys have a really good relationship. What was it like during the down time between scenes? I’ve spent so much of my life working in independent film, where you are always rushing. It’s just, like, a sprint. And the thing about the Marvel movies is they have the budget and the means to give you enough time to shoot, and that has positives—that are obvious—and negatives—which are that it takes a really long time. We were in Budapest from, like, March to September, because they take their time to make these things.

I think the best times I had on the show were… Budapest is a beautiful city. Oscar and I used to go on runs through the city. We used to play poker on the weekends. Oscar had a ping pong table brought to set to pass the time, because ping pong is kind of a great thing. It keeps your mind awake, but it doesn’t require you to forget your lines or anything. It’s a great way to stay focused and have a good time. You’re well known for your indie movies—the Before series, Reality Bites, some of the horror stuff like Sinister, etc.—what’s been the biggest shift in going to something as massive as a Marvel series, and what were you able to take from your experiences on all those smaller projects?

What’s wonderful about a smaller film is there’s immense creative freedom, because there isn’t a lot of money riding on it. So people are kind of betting on the more adventurous some of the ideas in the movie, the more chance it has of being successful. Usually, on a bigger budget film, there’s just a lot of fear. They’re just worried you’re gonna lose money, or your idea is going to derail the system. But Marvel didn’t work that way at all. They seem to have a great love of actors, and they have a great trust in them, and they really want you to contribute. They really want your creativity, and that was surprising to me. It was surprising to me to come up with ideas for the character, and have them go ‘Yes! Do that! That would be amazing!’ I’m not used to that.

All of the big streaming platforms have fascinating new movies and shows out on streaming this weekend, so let’s highlight one from each! Dive deeper into the world of social media stars through the new Netlfix-original series Hype House; you will not believe that there is more to learn about these people than what they already share with the would via TikTok. Over on Amazon Prime Video, George Clooney is directing a new drama film, The Tender Bar, starring Ben Affleck and Tye Sheridan. Hulu is teaching an amazing history lesson this weekend through ABC’s new historical drama series, The Women of the Movement. Last, but certainly not least, is the season 2 premiere of the hit HBO Max series, Euphoria. We have been waiting for this one for a while, and the dark teen drama is ready to pay off! Curious to find out more? Check out the rest of the hit titles new on streaming this weekend below:

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